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calycium
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|  Subject: Re: importing plants  Thu May 29, 2008 9:59 pm | |
| Trig,
I can remember bidding on your plant myself, but was surprised that it went as high as it ended up going. It is a nice specimin though and great age.
But getting back to importing - unless you have something special to import, give it away. Try grafting to get size quicker - thats about the only way. All the chemicals they throw on the quaranteened ones, gives them a dubious chance at llife - heard tales of them being left accidently in the freezers...
stick with seed, and graft like there is no tomorrow! |
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trigonus
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Location : coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C
| | Subject: Re: importing plants Thu May 29, 2008 11:03 pm | |
| | Quote: | Trig,
I can remember bidding on your plant myself, but was surprised that it went as high as it ended up going. It is a nice specimin though and great age. |
Didn't come from ebay.
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parrotsheaven
Joined : 14 May 2008
Posts : 404
Location : Red Cliffs, Victoria
| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 6:03 am | |
| Hooly dooly Trig that is a ripper  I had the opputunity to get a couple of mature ones but was a little short on cash at the time. Hoping to get a mature one for a chrissy present for myself, and if I have been a good girl it might be two lol
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San Rainbow
Joined : 21 Apr 2008
Posts : 181
Location : south of the border
| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 6:42 am | |
| yea trig that's a beauty! green with jealousy 
as cal said, looks like seeds and lots of grafting...
I was under the impression some Ario's wouldn't survive on there own roots once de grafted? just some thing I read somewhere... |
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trigonus
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| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 12:18 pm | |
| | Quote: | | I was under the impression some Ario's wouldn't survive on there own roots once de grafted? just some thing I read somewhere... |
I haven't heard that, but I don't know everything either. I suspect you might be thinking of Aztekium ritterii, an amazing rare and slow growing Mexican cactus that is notoriously difficult to re-root after grafting.
Thanks people, but I can't really take the credit, the person who grew it from seed around about when I was born should take the credit, though not sure who that was anyway, I think it has seen/met a few growers in it's time. I am just lucky enough to get a chance to grow it myself.
Go on Betty treat yourself 
It should always be remembered from a collectors perspective that grafted Arios depriciate in value considerably if grafted/de-grafted, own roots are the most collectable and valuable, that said, grafting is probably the best way to get more seed readily.
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San Rainbow
Joined : 21 Apr 2008
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Location : south of the border
| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 4:06 pm | |
| I hope to own a nice big one to one day!  |
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lewis
Joined : 07 May 2008
Posts : 377
Location : Melbourne
| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 4:42 pm | |
| | San Rainbow wrote: |
I was under the impression some Ario's wouldn't survive on there own roots once de grafted? just some thing I read somewhere... |
i had heard that too, but this guy seems to be able to do it:
http://cssaustralia.org.au/content/view/71/9/
 these arios are only 2 years old?? shows the power of grafting, A. retusus is supposedly the fastest growing ario however.
Awesome plant Trig, know how old it is approx? |
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San Rainbow
Joined : 21 Apr 2008
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Location : south of the border
| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 4:58 pm | |
| | how old / big do seedling's (ario & loph) have to be before you can graft them? |
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Hellonasty
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| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 5:02 pm | |
| | 7 days is enough. |
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lewis
Joined : 07 May 2008
Posts : 377
Location : Melbourne
| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 5:03 pm | |
| | well if you are grafting on pereskiopsis you can graft a couple of days after (or even at) germination. however considerable skill is involved in this. my attempts failed. size doesn't really matter, provided you are able to correctly align the vascular rings of the scion and stock of any two cacti then it may take |
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trigonus
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| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 5:10 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Awesome plant Trig, know how old it is approx? |
Estimated at 30+ years. A. fissuratus don't get much bigger then that one A. fissuratus var. lloydii can though and is much faster than the type. Though fast for an Ario is still pretty slow.
Also on grafting what HN & lewis said but with Arios it is imperative to maintain high humidity and heat when first grafted otherwise the scion will dry.
Hmm getting a bit off topic here, oh well it's 'Around The Fire', it's permissable, and the mod for this forum is on holidays so yeah...let's all crap on hahaha 
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trigonus
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| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 5:11 pm | |
| Plus i'm in a good mood because I just got some A. scapharostrus seeds in the mail
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parrotsheaven
Joined : 14 May 2008
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Location : Red Cliffs, Victoria
| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 5:18 pm | |
| San Rainbow, you can graft at a couple of weeks old.
Lewis the guy that showed how to degraft is Frank Kamei, the guy who's plants I showed in an earlier post.
I have a.bravoanus on pereskiopsis that I am going to cut the back in spring. Its quite long so don't want to take chances of it breaking off
I was told if I leave it at 10cm for now it will be OK. So it will probably have about 5cm out of the soil. The stock is 16cm from soil to ario at the moment and getting a good lean up 
Hey Trig I will definitely treat myself a chrissy present  good luck with your seeds !!!
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trigonus
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| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 5:23 pm | |
| | Quote: | good luck with your seeds !!!
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Thanks, I've only got about 500+ seed to sow in spring 
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parrotsheaven
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| | Subject: Re: importing plants Fri May 30, 2008 5:25 pm | |
| Hey that's not many when it comes to sowing, just wait till its time to prick them out and then pot them up 
Oops shouldn't have reminded you about that ........................ lol
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