Cereus graft

Age : 28 Joined : 04 Apr 2008 Posts : 64 Location : SEQLD

I was just wondering how Trichos would go grafted onto Cereus peruv. Possible?

(Sorry if this has already been discussed) Cheers!

Subject: Re: Cereus graft Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:11 pm

Why you wanna do that for?
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Joined : 23 Jun 2008 Posts : 20 Location : Ausmerica

Haven't tried it, but I'm guessing the different rib structures might make it difficult.

As already asked, why would you want to do it? Just for fun?

Most Tricho's would grow just as fast as the cereus, if not faster.

Age : 28 Joined : 04 Apr 2008 Posts : 64 Location : SEQLD

Just wondering if they were compatible or any good to use.

Subject: Re: Cereus graft Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:06 am

they will work fine, but like mentioned they will probably grow faster than the cereus would....

i have grafted some other cacti such as Lophophora to Cereus with good growth.

Subject: Re: Cereus graft Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:34 am

Yeah if you want to graft Tricho it would be preferable to graft a seedling to Peres, otherwise Trich to Trich, this is sometimes done to fatten up smaller cuts of sought after Tricho clones etc.

As Kada mentioned, it would make more sense to use C. peruvianus as a grafting stock for smaller, slower growing cacti. Personally I prefer Trichocereus sp. (usually T. pachanoi, as a grafting stock, but many different people have many different preferences.
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Subject: Re: Cereus graft Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:00 pm

I agree with the above. Whilst i don't grow many Trichocereus from what i have seen they seem to grow very fast (for cacti) on their own roots as it is. although You can theoredically graft any two cacti together, and you definitely could graft a small Trichocereus sp. to a Cereus peruvianus stock if you wanted to, i don't really see the point. but if it's for a bit of fun and grafting practise, go ahead! Smile

Age : 28 Joined : 04 Apr 2008 Posts : 64 Location : SEQLD

I have access to literally hundereds of Cereus cuts, they are everywhere in my town, unfortunately the same can't be said about Trichos.

Just the other day I asked a guy for a cut off his Cereus and he insisted I take the whole thing. I don't even like the bloody things, but I like them if I can graft on to them I guess.

Subject: Re: Cereus graft Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:26 pm

so go for it! one other HUGE***** advantage to Cereus over Tricho is their water tolerance.....Many trichs are not good in heavy rain/extended long wet periods.....pedros are -ok- but honestly i think they still suck in the rain! Cereus on teh otehr hand could probably grow as an awuarium plant! so if you wanted more water sensitive Trichocereus sp. (like bridgesii) to grow in ground outside, maybe a cereus root stock is not a half bad idea. and if ya got tons, then go at her!!!

but as potted plants, trichs grow faster than cereus usually Smile

Joined : 04 Apr 2008 Posts : 62 Location : melbourne

I've never really had troubles with trichos in the rain.
I have a bunch of pachanois, spachianus and schickendantzii in the ground at my mums place in Daylesford. Which has long wet cold winters (as far as australia goes any way), they're all doing great. they were even covered in snow a couple of weeks ago.
I've also seen great bridgesii plants in exactly the same conditions.

Back on topic though, why bother? Unless it's for a bit of practice grafting, i just don't see the point.

Age : 28 Joined : 04 Apr 2008 Posts : 64 Location : SEQLD

Subject: Re: Cereus graft Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:29 pm

maybe different genetics? i just had 5 peruvianus, 22 pachanoi and 3 bridgesii rot outside in straight grit/sand substrate Sad

the cereus is great as most of the myrtle, but the trichs just dont keep up here Sad

Joined : 04 Apr 2008 Posts : 62 Location : melbourne

Where abouts are you situated? location: international doesn't explain much.

Subject: Re: Cereus graft Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:44 am

Taiwan...very wet now.....another typhoon just left today, and much of our neighboring villages are flooded....but here it drains away. Doesn't southern Aus get a ton of rain as well?

its very wet here, much like Florida in a hurricane, but it lasts longer here i think.

Subject: Re: Cereus graft Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:13 pm