Consultation on implementation of model drug schedules for Commonwealth serious drug offences

Number of posts: 82 Location: Gondwana Registration date: 2009-11-12

Could this really be possible? It's only two weeks after the deadline.

Just relaying what I heard.
The person who announced this to the entire society meeting is very highly regarded. Unlikely he would want egg on his face.
The message originated from one of the people in charge of the rare plants expo at Tesslar's bulb farm. He had spoken to the Department responsible for the proposal's assessment.
Seems like a logical progression from what was obviously unworkable legislation...

Number of posts: 82 Location: Gondwana Registration date: 2009-11-12

I agree it does, but considering that they have said they will be reconsidering the proposal, it seems likely to me that some of the more well known mescaline-containing Trichocereus species, along with Lophophora species, will still be targetted. I hope not, but I think that's what they were aiming for.

Number of posts: 11 Location: Queensland Registration date: 2011-03-19

If they are concerned about Trichocereus - they should have to prove it's being cultivated for drugs in each case rather than ban it outright. It's very unfair.

Number of posts: 126 Location: SEQ Registration date: 2008-06-28

From a post over at SAB
http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26539&pid=296758&st=525&#entry296758

"It seems brendan o'connor( federal member for Gorton, Vic) the minister involved is still vehemently defending the proposal, so there is absolutely no hint that it will be dropped."

Number of posts: 1 Location: Kilkivan Registration date: 2011-04-23

I heard of the proposed legislation AFTER the date for submissions.
Subsequently I was in Maryborough (Qld) and was talking to market stall holders who were selling Cacti. Neither had heard of the proposal.
So I contacted my local Federal MP- Warren Truss- leader of the National Party.
The following image is a copy of his written reply.

Number of posts: 10 Location: Aus Registration date: 2011-11-22

Martin wrote:

I heard of the proposed legislation AFTER the date for submissions.

Same here. Thankfully the story made it to the newspapers and then the forums which is where I read about it by accident two months later.

Despite numerous objections from the public, horticulture industry and drug NGO's, the government still appears intent on pursuing the proposal. In a document dated 22 July 2011 they give the following timeline:

"Policy approval could be sought in late 2011, with possible legislative implementation in the first half of 2012."

http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/rwpattach.nsf/VAP/(689F2CCBD6DC263C912FB74B15BE8285)~34Implementation+of+model+drug,+plant+and+precursor+schedules+for+Commonwealth+serious+drug+offences+-+CRJD.DOC/$file/34Implementation+of+model+drug,+plant+and+precursor+schedules+for+Commonwealth+serious+drug+offences+-+CRJD.DOC

Does anyone have any solid information on what is happening and how it will affect cacti growers? There have been no updates at http://www.gardenfreedom.com/

Number of posts: 126 Location: SEQ Registration date: 2008-06-28

What i find disturbing is that they don't even pretend to ask the people these laws will affect any more, not even a hint of public consultation this time around.
They only seem concerned about the affect on "industry" & bugger the voter/tax payers that pay their wages.

Number of posts: 10 Location: Aus Registration date: 2011-11-22

shortly wrote:

What i find disturbing is that they don't even pretend to ask the people these laws will affect any more, not even a hint of public consultation this time around.
They only seem concerned about the affect on "industry" & bugger the voter/tax payers that pay their wages.

Indeed. The stake holder most affected by these proposals is the Australian public and what is at risk is their freedom to pursue a hobby which has posed no harm to the community.

It was precisely this lack of public scrutiny and involvement that VAADA criticized in their submission:

"Consultations and inquiries are typically open processes whereby submissions and commentary is generally recorded on the public record. This ensures that the process is transparent [..]. Those who wish to make private submissions are typically afforded that option on request. The lack of public access to responses to this inquiry is of concern to us, especially as there is, in our view, a lack of clarity in the reasoning for some of the proposals in the Discussion Paper."

"Moreover, on the face of it, it is difficult to appreciate the purpose of some of the reforms outlined in the Discussion Paper. They do not appear to be consistent with any social trend, event, or contemporary research. There is an overall lack of evidence based rationale provided as the basis for the actions proposed in
the Discussion Paper."

One would think after such criticisms from a peak drug advisory body, and the overwhelming negative public response, the A.G.'s department would take stock. But no. It pursues private discussions with unnamed parties with a view to securing "legislative implementation in the first half of 2012".

No government should feel it is at liberty to take away freedoms from its citizens without being able to demonstrate the need for it, or show what the removal of these freedoms will practically achieve.

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