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PostSubject: ID plaease :)   Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:34 pm

Any ideas as to what this is ? I was given it by a well known cactus enthusiast in Australia and It was labelled Neoraimondia Gigantea. I does not fit the appearance and features of that plant, but what is it ?

Love to hear some opinions.


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PostSubject: Re: ID plaease :)   Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:29 pm

Maybe Trichocereus Peruvianus? Looks kinda like it...(http://www.cactiguide.com/cactus/?genus=Echinopsis&species=peruviana)
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PostSubject: Re: ID plaease :)   Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:40 pm

Looks very peruvian to me.
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PostSubject: Re: ID plaease :)   Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:19 am

Many differing opinions on this one from Peruvianus (Which I firmly believe is incorrect), Cuzcoensis hybrid (possibly) and even T.Pquiensis (another possibility).

Whatever it is I'm really liking it Smile

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PostSubject: Re: ID plaease :)   Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:06 pm

Can I ask what dissuades you from considering this a peruvianus? Aside from the radials appearing slightly more delicate than I am accustomed to, I would consider this almost a textbook seedling of T. peruvianus.
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PostSubject: Re: ID plaease :)   Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:39 am

Lach,

First I can see why you would say this a a Peru, it has the V mark/cease above the areoles, spination is similar, etc.

My personal opinion is this plant is a hybrid that has Cuzcoensis and a true Pachanoi (not PC, from my findings I believe PC is a hybrid).

Why this isn't a Peruvianus. Remember this is my opinion/findings on two very closely related species, you may have a different opinion, please share it.

No double central spine, every peruvianus I have seen has double central spines at some point whilst cuzco does not. Cuzco also has a tear drop at the very base of the central spines, this is evident on this plant but hard to see in the pic.

Peruvianus spines tend to be a brown or thorn colour, whilst Cuzco has a pronounced yellow colour especially towards to top.

The body colour confuses me, it is a nice deep green colour with no sign of a blue shimmer as yet. This can can change with environment so will wait and see.

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PostSubject: Re: ID plaease :)   Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:16 pm

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No double central spine, every peruvianus I have seen has double central spines at some point whilst cuzco does not. Cuzco also has a tear drop at the very base of the central spines, this is evident on this plant but hard to see in the pic.

Hmm... I've got a couple of "peruvianus" seedlings, and some have double centrals, whereas others do not. You could be onto something here...
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