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PostSubject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus   Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:42 pm

If I'm going to graft Ario's, what are some recommended stocks that I could use. If I'm going to use grafting method, I may as well get some stocks ready.
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PostSubject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus   Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:08 am

Grafting is most definitely the fastest method especially for the ultra slow growers like Ariocarpus, however it becomes difficult when you want to grow and graft a large number of plants. I have spent many hours potting/re-potting stock plants and getting everything ready to graft.

For my last lot of Ariocarpus I put down 200 seeds grafted about 20 and let the remainder grow out, I must say it is very rewarding to grow these guys from seed Smile They are still tiny but coming along nicely.

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PostSubject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus   Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:09 am

I recently re-potted about 100 of them I will get a picture and post it up Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus   Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:02 am

mitchell101 wrote:
If I'm going to graft Ario's, what are some recommended stocks that I could use. If I'm going to use grafting method, I may as well get some stocks ready.


Slenicereus/Hylocereus are both good, so is Pereskiopsis.



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PostSubject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus   Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:35 pm

Very Happy I've already got some Slenicereus. Does it matter that they aren't mature? I rooted them as cuttings not so long ago.
I looked at photos of Hylocereus and noticed that their leaves look a bit like Epiphyllum,
how would Epi's go as a stock?
Would love to see your ario seedling mate.
Once again, really appreciate everyone's help
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PostSubject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus   Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:15 pm

I posted a separate thread with the seedlings mate. Epi's are no good, I have see a few experiments but never any success.

Most selenicereus are pretty good especially for younger seedlings.

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PostSubject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus   Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:06 pm

I find the selenicereus good for some permanent grafts as well.
There is a really good PDF about the selenis, here's the link:

http://www.richtstatt.de/gymnos/docs/wick_graft.pdf

Another thing to remember, is that the Pereskiopsis is often not good for a freestanding graft for more then about 2 years, as the grafted scion becomes too big for the structure of the peres. You can attach the graft to a stake, if you want to keep it on there.
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PostSubject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus   Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:08 pm

mitchell101
If you use grafting stocks from cuttings, rooting is not critical.
It is better to use rooted stock but you can use a cutting without roots as a grafting stock.
The scion will grow immidiately after a successful grafting process if you used rooted stocks.
On the other hand you have to wait a bit but the scion will start to grow when roots of the stock start growing.
The success ratio of the grafting is not so different using rooted and non-rooted stocks.

IXOXI
Selenicereus is also quite thin.
If you grafted a large type of Ariocarus i.e. retusus and related, you have to consider a support.
Retusus var and cultivar will grow around 20 cm diameter.

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