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mitchell101
Number of posts: 25 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:42 pm | |
| If I'm going to graft Ario's, what are some recommended stocks that I could use. If I'm going to use grafting method, I may as well get some stocks ready. |
|  | | Hellonasty Admin

Number of posts: 1227 Location: NSW Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:08 am | |
| Grafting is most definitely the fastest method especially for the ultra slow growers like Ariocarpus, however it becomes difficult when you want to grow and graft a large number of plants. I have spent many hours potting/re-potting stock plants and getting everything ready to graft. For my last lot of Ariocarpus I put down 200 seeds grafted about 20 and let the remainder grow out, I must say it is very rewarding to grow these guys from seed  They are still tiny but coming along nicely. HN _________________ My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

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|  | | Hellonasty Admin

Number of posts: 1227 Location: NSW Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:09 am | |
| I recently re-potted about 100 of them I will get a picture and post it up _________________ My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

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|  | | Hellonasty Admin

Number of posts: 1227 Location: NSW Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:02 am | |
| | mitchell101 wrote: | | If I'm going to graft Ario's, what are some recommended stocks that I could use. If I'm going to use grafting method, I may as well get some stocks ready. |
Slenicereus/Hylocereus are both good, so is Pereskiopsis.
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|  | | mitchell101
Number of posts: 25 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registration date: 2010-05-02
 | Subject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:35 pm | |
|  I've already got some Slenicereus. Does it matter that they aren't mature? I rooted them as cuttings not so long ago. I looked at photos of Hylocereus and noticed that their leaves look a bit like Epiphyllum, how would Epi's go as a stock? Would love to see your ario seedling mate. Once again, really appreciate everyone's help |
|  | | Hellonasty Admin

Number of posts: 1227 Location: NSW Registration date: 2008-04-04
 | Subject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:15 pm | |
| I posted a separate thread with the seedlings mate. Epi's are no good, I have see a few experiments but never any success.
Most selenicereus are pretty good especially for younger seedlings. _________________ My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

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|  | | IXOXI
Number of posts: 89 Location: Earth Registration date: 2011-12-08
 | Subject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:06 pm | |
| I find the selenicereus good for some permanent grafts as well. There is a really good PDF about the selenis, here's the link:
http://www.richtstatt.de/gymnos/docs/wick_graft.pdf
Another thing to remember, is that the Pereskiopsis is often not good for a freestanding graft for more then about 2 years, as the grafted scion becomes too big for the structure of the peres. You can attach the graft to a stake, if you want to keep it on there. |
|  | | Hanazono Astromaniac

Number of posts: 368 Location: SA Registration date: 2008-09-14
 | Subject: Re: germinating Ariocarpus Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:08 pm | |
| mitchell101 If you use grafting stocks from cuttings, rooting is not critical. It is better to use rooted stock but you can use a cutting without roots as a grafting stock. The scion will grow immidiately after a successful grafting process if you used rooted stocks. On the other hand you have to wait a bit but the scion will start to grow when roots of the stock start growing. The success ratio of the grafting is not so different using rooted and non-rooted stocks.
IXOXI Selenicereus is also quite thin. If you grafted a large type of Ariocarus i.e. retusus and related, you have to consider a support. Retusus var and cultivar will grow around 20 cm diameter.
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