HomeGalleryFAQRegisterLog in
Latest topics
» Problem with cacti
by nzivanovic Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:58 pm

» Romanian Online Journal - Xerophilia
by eduart Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:56 am

» Free continual trading thread
by chris86 Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:54 pm

» Nooker gone aussie
by Jackdaripper Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:40 am

» Newbie here, received a few succulents as a gift. Would love some help identifying them so I can research how to care for them!
by SneakyCuttlefish Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:08 am

» What is it?
by SneakyCuttlefish Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:07 am


Share | 
 

 Post ya Loph's

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
SneakyCuttlefish
Moderator
avatar

Number of posts : 705
Location : FNQ
Registration date : 2012-12-11

PostSubject: Post ya Loph's   Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:46 pm

My latest edition.
Approximately 35.5 cm across at widest point. 6 mature flowering heads.

I'd love to see what's hiding out there so feel free to flash your buttons.

Back to top Go down
IXOXI
Cereus about Cacti
avatar

Number of posts : 521
Location : Glenhaven, NSW
Registration date : 2011-12-08

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:24 am

This one only has around 20 flowering heads Very Happy
Image hosted by servimg.com
Back to top Go down
http://www.cacticube.com
numan

avatar

Number of posts : 43
Location : moscow
Registration date : 2011-12-13

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:48 pm

nice caespitosas! ...mine is much smaller, has only one flowering size head and still produced no single flower...maybe this season.. which is just about to come here in europe..

PS Here are my beloved thailandies...cant remember if I've posted them before..







Last edited by numan on Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
SneakyCuttlefish
Moderator
avatar

Number of posts : 705
Location : FNQ
Registration date : 2012-12-11

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:58 pm

oh my god how old is that beast IXOXI??

_________________
Sneakiest Cephalopod
Back to top Go down
IXOXI
Cereus about Cacti
avatar

Number of posts : 521
Location : Glenhaven, NSW
Registration date : 2011-12-08

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:10 pm

That is actually not a caespitosa - standard lophs will clump with age, and this one is going to be 41 years old this year. Just for the record, it would have been a physical impossibility for me to have planted the seed from this! Razz
Back to top Go down
http://www.cacticube.com
SneakyCuttlefish
Moderator
avatar

Number of posts : 705
Location : FNQ
Registration date : 2012-12-11

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:11 pm

Pretty damn impressive. I have a few big ones but nothing as old as that. I love the look of the really old single headers. Especially when they get real hairy with a spiraled look.

_________________
Sneakiest Cephalopod
Back to top Go down
IXOXI
Cereus about Cacti
avatar

Number of posts : 521
Location : Glenhaven, NSW
Registration date : 2011-12-08

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:36 pm

I have not measured this one recently, but, I remember comparing it next to a basketball, and they were virtually identical in size.
Back to top Go down
http://www.cacticube.com
SneakyCuttlefish
Moderator
avatar

Number of posts : 705
Location : FNQ
Registration date : 2012-12-11

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:36 pm

My cluster produces more seed then I can care to plant. Yours must be an absolute seed factory!!

_________________
Sneakiest Cephalopod
Back to top Go down
Lachy
Moderator
avatar

Number of posts : 733
Location : Langwarrin
Registration date : 2008-04-05

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:49 pm

These are beautiful old plants. It's incredible to see specimens with decades rather than merely years behind them.
Back to top Go down
SneakyCuttlefish
Moderator
avatar

Number of posts : 705
Location : FNQ
Registration date : 2012-12-11

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:28 pm

Wow numan those are some unreal loph's. Spectacular color.!

_________________
Sneakiest Cephalopod
Back to top Go down
bgossco



Number of posts : 9
Location : Perth
Registration date : 2010-04-06

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:03 pm

Awesome plants guys, fantastic variegation there numan Smile
Back to top Go down
Hellonasty
Admin
avatar

Number of posts : 1824
Location : NSW
Registration date : 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:36 am

Very nice plants everyone Very Happy

_________________

My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

http://astrophytum-and-friends.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down
QuantumReality

avatar

Number of posts : 23
Location : Victoria
Registration date : 2008-10-22

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:59 pm

Just beautiful, keem em coming!! Smile
Back to top Go down
cryptocarpa
Calm and Collected
avatar

Number of posts : 268
Location : Melbourne
Registration date : 2009-03-14

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:22 pm

Had the good fortune to have this show up in my seedlings a couple of years back. Its a williamsii.

Back to top Go down
SneakyCuttlefish
Moderator
avatar

Number of posts : 705
Location : FNQ
Registration date : 2012-12-11

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:27 pm

Just stunning, crypto. I wish I was as fortunate as you.

I planted hundreds of seeds this year and nothing unusual yet. Does anyone have any idea what the odds are of finding a variegated/crested loph?

_________________
Sneakiest Cephalopod
Back to top Go down
Hellonasty
Admin
avatar

Number of posts : 1824
Location : NSW
Registration date : 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:30 pm

Sneaky, I would assume 1/1000 would produce some sort of freak.

_________________

My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

http://astrophytum-and-friends.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down
cryptocarpa
Calm and Collected
avatar

Number of posts : 268
Location : Melbourne
Registration date : 2009-03-14

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:12 pm

Hn is spot on with that number for veriegates of L. Williamsii in my experience. The problem is that only about one in five variegates is a good one, nicely mottled and not susceptible to sun scorching. I have turfed out lots of seedlings for the sake of the selected few.
Interestingly the odds of variegates in L. Koehresii, L. Fricii and L. Diffusa are much better from my experience. Around 1 in 200 or less. I have one or more variegate plants of all these species.

Crests are much rarer in Lophs. I have only ever seen one definite crest and it was an offset on one of my friends forty year old plants. Of course I collected self pollinated seeds from that plant and have grown loads of offspring but the best I have got is dichotomous plants.

I think crests happen when the plant is increasing its rib numbers from say five to eight or more. Instead of creating just a few of the new initial cells in the shoot apical meristem that are responsible for producing all the somatic cells necessary for the new ribs I reckon there is a problem with the feedback mechanism that tells the meristem to stop producing new initials, and so, many initials are produced in a symmetrical line that forms a crest as the initials go on dividing into new cells.
I even think there is a mathematical formula that describes the process of going from the normal morphogenic pattern to the fasciated one.
I flunked year ten maths but I can see the pattern and have photo documented the morphogenisis of several fasciated meristems and they definitely have a distinct and consistent structural architecture. If anyone out there is into morphogenisis or heavy math I'd love some help to better define the way fasciated meristems originate.

Anyway because the point at which Lophs go from five to eight ribs take three or four years to happen getting crests means growing plants for at least that long, variegation is evident much earlier.
Another thing I have noticed though I am getting off topic is that crests are more common in species with many ribs. I think it is because they increase the number of ribs at more stages than species with few ribs. So for a species like T. Psuedopectinatus that has many ribs crest are about a one in a few hundred occurrence whereas for something like A.myriostigma I have grown thousands without a single crest.
All of this information is made somewhat redundant by the work Ix has done to develop a method for inducing crests with hormones, but then I think the details of that work are a closely guarded secret, so for now the rest of us a stuck inducing crests the old fashioned way by just selecting from heaps of plants...
Back to top Go down
Hellonasty
Admin
avatar

Number of posts : 1824
Location : NSW
Registration date : 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:54 pm

I have never thought that more ribs equals a greater chance of a crest, but the more I think of your explanation the more sense it seems to make.

As for variegates I have grown(from seed) quite a few, Lophs, Astros, Trichos etc but crests I'm severely limited. I have grown 7/8 crests from Tricho Peruvianus Monstrose seed and probably 1/3000 for the remainder. The 1 was an extremely rare Pediocactus Knowltonii Crest which I treasure dearly.

I had'nt heard of IX's work what's he doing ?

_________________

My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

http://astrophytum-and-friends.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down
cryptocarpa
Calm and Collected
avatar

Number of posts : 268
Location : Melbourne
Registration date : 2009-03-14

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:00 pm

I know that pediocactus crest of yours well, if you ever want it chopped up and multiplied I would gladly pay you a royalty on every plant sold! Same with any other unique plants anyone has.
I read a post about inducing crests in Ix cackie cube thread. What's he up to? I wish I knew....
Back to top Go down
Hellonasty
Admin
avatar

Number of posts : 1824
Location : NSW
Registration date : 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:22 am

cryptocarpa wrote:
I know that pediocactus crest of yours well,

Have you ever seen another Knowltonii crest? I've asked around and searched the net but never found one except mine. Must be quite rare, it was only one offset that crested but I had a look today and another offset is also cresting so I assume it's genetic.


_________________

My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

http://astrophytum-and-friends.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down
cryptocarpa
Calm and Collected
avatar

Number of posts : 268
Location : Melbourne
Registration date : 2009-03-14

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:36 am

No I have not seen another one of those and I would say it is most likely the only one in existence. Pediocactus are quite rare and there is every chance that yours is the only one to have crested.
I have an Escobaria lareodoi crest that I think might fit in the same category of unique plants because I can't find reference to another, but I reckon Pediocactus are far nicer than Escobaria so the luck is with you.
Back to top Go down
Hellonasty
Admin
avatar

Number of posts : 1824
Location : NSW
Registration date : 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:20 am

Yeash especially since I only had 25 seeds. Extremely lucky to say the least, I have degrafted it since last time I posted a photo, I will get another one today. It has grown quite rapidly.

_________________

My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

http://astrophytum-and-friends.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down
Hellonasty
Admin
avatar

Number of posts : 1824
Location : NSW
Registration date : 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:23 am

WHOOPS just realised we are wayyyyyy off topic sort OP. I will post a Loph too Smile I hope that makes up for it.

_________________

My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

http://astrophytum-and-friends.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down
cryptocarpa
Calm and Collected
avatar

Number of posts : 268
Location : Melbourne
Registration date : 2009-03-14

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:43 pm

Spotted this yesterday, maybe a crest on cv. gigantea. Fingers crossed.

Back to top Go down
Hellonasty
Admin
avatar

Number of posts : 1824
Location : NSW
Registration date : 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:56 pm

Bit early yet mate Very Happy Very Happy lets home.

I've not heard of that CV what is he character trait ? Larger plant ?

_________________

My Cacti Blog, please come visit me.

http://astrophytum-and-friends.blogspot.com/

Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Post ya Loph's   

Back to top Go down
 
Post ya Loph's
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next
 Similar topics
-
» Honey Post Op Pics pg 2
» Post an Image From Photobucket To The Forum
» How do I post a topic in a forum?
» How to post pictures from your personal album
» Just had to post this....Baker dog food

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Australian Cacti Forum :: - :: General Cultivation, Identification & Information-
Jump to: