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PostSubject: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:22 am

Got this huge fat T. pach recently, well at lest I think it is, the spines are slightly bigger than normal pach spines @ (biggest) 5mm, but I suppose they are relevant to the size of the plant.
The photos are taken at an angle where the plant is looking its skinniest, its about 17cm to 18cm at the base and yes it needs a much bigger pot, bring on spring



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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:24 am

sorry for huge pics Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:55 am

San Rainbow wrote:
sorry for huge pics Embarassed

huge plant = huge pics! very nice Smile
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:56 am

no idea on trichos but nice Epithelanthas Smile
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:54 am

lewis wrote:
no idea on trichos but nice Epithelanthas Smile


cheers, they are one of my faves! pm me if you ever want to let any go Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:28 pm

Kinda looks like a scop. But looks alot like the Backeberg clone of San Pedro too. Possibly a hybrid.

Looks like it's about 6-7 inch in diameter so am going to have to say scop if it's that fat.

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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:27 pm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/msscacti/819777099/

Here is a photo comparing the short spined T. scopulicola and T. cordobensis. Take a look and see what ya think.
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:09 pm

Looks like Scop to me Smile have a little one with little or no spines like bob-bob's
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:21 pm

bob-bob wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/msscacti/819777099/

Here is a photo comparing the short spined T. scopulicola and T. cordobensis. Take a look and see what ya think.

yea kinda looks more like T. cordobensis...

cheers bob bob Wink
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:21 pm

Nice looking plants including the copiapoas
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:32 pm

now it looks like a normal pach trig Razz

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cheers cal Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:32 pm

Sorry San, I had to edit the size of your pics, was really really annoying me. Hope you don't mind.

People you can resize your pics in the editor, it's really easy and it prevents me from getting annoyed about large pics too Wink

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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:27 pm

trigonus wrote:
Sorry San, I had to edit the size of your pics, was really really annoying me. Hope you don't mind.

no probs mate, it was annoying me to!

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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:30 pm

Looks to me to be the standard Backeberg clone of E. Pachanoi. It can be slightly varied, it was probably a cutting off an older plant. When you repot it check to see whether it was seed grown, but I highly doubt it.

If you really think it is something else my guess would be E. sp. 'Super Pedro', that's pretty similar to E. pachanoi but slightly fatter.
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:37 pm

cheers prier, have been looking @ pics on the net but there is to much variance for me to ID.

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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:55 pm

Hey San Rainbow.
Would it be impolite to ask how much a big beast like that cost you?
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:09 pm

Looks a bit different from Super Pedro to my eyes, but I can see where prier is coming from as it has a distinct scop look about it.

I think Sup Ped has pretty much been lumped into the T. scopulicola/T. cordobensis group at this stage. I am pretty happy to admit that it is a T. cordobensis (Sup Ped) or a variation or hybrid thereof.

Still think it's a hybrid, though good old Backeberg clone does get quite fat when ground grown and well fed.

Where's PD? He will probably have a good idea of what it could be.

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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:49 pm

Roger The Dog wrote:
Would it be impolite to ask how much a big beast like that cost you?
No not at all, I picked it up for $60 from a local nursery, bargain ah Very Happy .
They didn't seem to have any others just your standard T. Pach, I was pretty lucky...

trigonus wrote:
Where's PD? He will probably have a good idea of what it could be.

yea I was hoping he would have a nudge.
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:11 pm

Its "super pedro".

Grows much much fatter than regular T pach, has very different spination.
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PostSubject: Re: T. pach or sub species?   Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:20 pm

cheers all Wink
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