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watertrade
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Location: Canberra
Registration date: 2008-05-16
| | Subject: Trichocereus spachianus ? Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:37 pm | |
| HI folks, I picked up some of these tips (with the promise to return for more) for someone wanting to clear the garden. I'm pretty sure they are T spachianus but can't be that sure. what do you guys think? I'm hoping to use them for grafting stock .. so hopeing they are as thought. thanks   |
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MichaelCactus
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Number of posts: 293
Location: Bendigo
Registration date: 2008-06-24
| | Subject: Re: Trichocereus spachianus ? Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:03 am | |
| Cant help you here sorry WT. |
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Squil
Number of posts: 34
Location: ACT
Registration date: 2008-05-28
| | Subject: Re: Trichocereus spachianus ? Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:07 pm | |
| Yep! I'd say T. spachianus....
Or Echinopsis whatever-its-called-now. |
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lewis
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Location: Melbourne
Registration date: 2008-05-07
| | Subject: Re: Trichocereus spachianus ? Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:45 pm | |
| that would be an exceptionally fat Echinopsis spachiana. |
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watertrade
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Location: Canberra
Registration date: 2008-05-16
| | Subject: Re: Trichocereus spachianus ? Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:14 pm | |
| | lewis wrote: | | that would be an exceptionally fat Echinopsis spachiana. |
excuse my lack of understanding of the nomenclature... trich/echino ,...
lewis, do you agree its a T spachianus? |
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lewis
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Location: Melbourne
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| | Subject: Re: Trichocereus spachianus ? Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:29 pm | |
| haha yes. thats its current name. its incredibly healthy, shinny and fat, just begging to have something grafted to it.  |
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watertrade
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Squil
Number of posts: 34
Location: ACT
Registration date: 2008-05-28
| | Subject: Re: Trichocereus spachianus ? Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:42 pm | |
| | watertrade wrote: |
excuse my lack of understanding of the nomenclature... trich/echino ,...
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Basically, everything that was a Trichocereus is now in Echinopsis. In some cases, specific names have remained the same or similar (eg. T. spachianus -> E. spachiana, T. peruvianus -> E. peruviana, T. pachanoi -> E. pachanoi) but in other cases the specific epithet has changed (eg. T. bridgesii -> E. lageniformis).
Studying nomenclature and its rules is a great way to take the fun right out of botany.
I try not to get too hung up on it though. Essentially, the convention of naming is only there to make sure two parties know what is being discussed without ambiguity. If you know what I mean, and I know what you mean, then unless you're writing a scientific paper, who cares.
A good thing to keep in the back of your mind when you're perusing online seed shops and can't find the Trichos though! |
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lewis
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Location: Melbourne
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| | Subject: Re: Trichocereus spachianus ? Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:16 pm | |
| ^well put Squil.  hey WT i think i caused the confusion... i always call it Trichocereus spachianus and only referred to it as Echinopsis spachiana in this instance because Squil said 'Or Echinopsis whatever-its-called-now.'  sorry should have clarified earlier. |
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watertrade
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Number of posts: 260
Location: Canberra
Registration date: 2008-05-16
| | Subject: Re: Trichocereus spachianus ? Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:51 pm | |
| Thanks guys, I would actually like to understand the nomenclature better I learnt the Trichocereus / Echinopsis basics while getting seeds from 'Arizona cacti' its a good one to know |
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