Ok so it's a bit hard for me to know exactly what to put here. I must try and somewhat walk a middle ground here, whilst remaining true to my convictions. I don't want to tread on anyones toes as this place is as much mine as it is yours. Someone said:

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But simply put - Trig's Forum - Trig's rules

Well that may be the case in theory I maintain that this place is as much mine as it is yours. We need to work all this out now as I have left it too long really, someone said something about having dividing lines. Well this I do agree with and I am in progress of figuring out just what these the dividing lines of the rules are. Rules are annoying, but we need something.

I might mention I don't host the server so we have to play by their rules first and foremost, then the ACF rules comes second. So I and everyone here needs to respect those rules aswell. One day I might be able to host the server myself and then there will certainly be more freedom of speech.

Anyway, I agree with alot of what has been said, and some I tend to disagree with to some extent.

The ebay thing is a double edged sword, whilst it does personally annoy me, these ebay discussions. I can see the educational benefits of such threads. The problem I see in these threads is 1: Advertising. I prefer not to advertise ebay too much as they truly are a money grabbing & ruthless multinational corporation. Not to mention that some of the sellers are rather unscrupulous. Some are great too!

2: Is that these threads tend to degenerate into name calling sessions where the high bidders become 'idiots'. Take a minute to reflect that some of the bidders and possibly even the sellers are member of the ACF community and they might quite likely take insult to those types of comments made about them in these ebay threads.

Another problem is that we don't have a regular mod who can moderate this Around The Fire forum and this needs to be addressed also. Which is being addressed.

If you want to chat about ebay items and their prices for educational purposes, well i'm all for that. Please can we keep it to the already existing 'Ebay madness thread' http://forum.auscactiforum.net/around-the-fire-f12/ebay-madness-t429.htm and refrain from the insults. I think if that works then there shouldn't be a problem.

Lets just get on with talking about cactus

Oh and...Vicki I am not mad at you for starting the 'Ebay madness' thread. This is something we needed to sort at ACF for a while now.

Another point. Entheogenic discussions of cacti is a no-no, but ethnobotany discussions regarding historical uses etc; should be fine as long as people stay on topic.

See how we go.

Good call, trig... I think that the way you have allowed the ebay thread to stay alive, with the boundaries given is a good thing...

Cheers

Thanks Trig, I'm glad we have rules to go by now.

Yeah thats cool.
I noticed that the rules are quite emphatic about not discussing alkaloids. But i think its possible that alkaloids could be mentioned in discussions about plant protection or taxonomy etc. Maybe 'no entheogenic discussions' is a bit more specific to the interests of this site.

Good Work Trig

Whilst I am loath to promote the evil garage sale myself, and I tend to agree with trig with respect to not filling their pockets any more than is necessary, I couldn't help but think that the Epiphyllum oxypetallum with the item number 180314231626 might be of interest to the Sydney folk who might be on this forum.

It seems to be a large plant with lots of buds, and for the current price on it I would bid myself if I lived up there!

It's finishing up soon...