thanks guys - I appreciate the help. I have had
a bad week as far as plants go!
To add more info and answer a few more questions. they are kept in
a cupboard like setup with a number of levels and fluros. all sides are
closed in. they sit in a plastic tub - so Its quite humid.
I should have mentioned this before but ages ago the all the pereskoopsis
developed funny looking leaves.

like below.
it looks like mite damage right? but where are
the mites?
could it be that the mites are just too small to see?
I have used up to 40x magnification and can't see anything.
I'm also thinking about degrating the lot, grafting the pups and getting
them on their own roots. then take them to the greenhouse where they can
get some real sunlight.
what do you think? a number of the grafts are not doing that well anyway
and have developed their own roots already.
grrrrrr
