HomeHome  GalleryGallery  FAQFAQ  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Something is eating my grafted seedlings
by IXOXI Today at 2:31 am

» Harrisia jusbertii
by IXOXI Yesterday at 11:29 am

» How do I identify variegated seedlings?
by Torro Wed May 23, 2012 5:46 pm

» First seeds sown 11/2/2012
by IXOXI Tue May 22, 2012 6:43 pm

» Chimera ? Mutation? Something 'normal'?
by IXOXI Tue May 22, 2012 12:19 pm

» Beginner Question... Couple of plants flowering..
by cactuscook Sun May 20, 2012 11:14 am


Share | 
 

 Forgotten Tricho

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
MichaelCactus
Calm and Collected


Number of posts: 293
Location: Bendigo
Registration date: 2008-06-24

PostSubject: Forgotten Tricho   Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:59 pm

Had a name for this but its long forgotten. 1st time bloomer, must like its new home in the ground.



Back to top Go down
trigonus
Admin & Cactus Fiend


Number of posts: 881
Location: coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C
Registration date: 2008-01-23

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:07 pm

Looks like T. grandiflorus to me.

_________________
コレクタ
Back to top Go down
http://forum.auscactiforum.net
MichaelCactus
Calm and Collected


Number of posts: 293
Location: Bendigo
Registration date: 2008-06-24

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:20 pm

Huascha was the name i had, i remember once i looked up grandiflorus and saw the synonym.
Back to top Go down
trigonus
Admin & Cactus Fiend


Number of posts: 881
Location: coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C
Registration date: 2008-01-23

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:41 pm

Yep I agree T. huascha. aka...damned taxonomists Evil or Very Mad

_________________
コレクタ
Back to top Go down
http://forum.auscactiforum.net
prier



Number of posts: 106
Location: melbourne
Registration date: 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:20 am

There is a bunch of red flowered Trichos, could you please post a photo of the body of the plant.

Isn't huascha the species name if the plant is in Echinopsis? I think your plant looks similar to T. huasca, which is thin branched, and slightly longered spined than T. grandiflora.
Back to top Go down
prier



Number of posts: 106
Location: melbourne
Registration date: 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:21 am

Scrap that last post.

I spent all of my ciggie breaks at work today researching this and I've confused myself terribly. sorry.

I'm going to write a decent kinda long post about this later. my brain isn't quite up to it yet.
Back to top Go down
Kada
Calm and Collected


Number of posts: 209
Location: International
Registration date: 2008-04-05

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:56 pm

t. huascha is now E. huacha......along with many others. your not alone being confused as to the reasoning behind it all Suspect
Back to top Go down
http://www.kadasgarden.com
lewis
avid contributor & moderator


Number of posts: 863
Location: Melbourne
Registration date: 2008-05-07

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:37 pm

Sorry, i was the one who gave Michael the name of Trichocereus huascha for this plant and therefore am partly to blame for the subsequent resulting confusion. it seems that you can use T/E.huascha as a blanket coverall name for just about any red flowered Trichocereus, its almost as vague as the common name of 'Red Torch Cactus' lol. I have the same plant as Michael's pictured above, mine is labelled as T.huascha but i guess that doesn't mean much. This is not T.grandiflora/grandiflorus for the reasons prier outlined (ie. longer spines, thinner stems). wait, T.grandiflora is now a synonym of E.huascha if you want to be up to date with the current nomenclature. argh!
look how many darn synonyms this poor plant has:

Echinopsis pecheretiana, Trichocereus grandiflorus, Lobivia hyalacantha, Acanthocalycium hyalacanthum, Helianthocereus hyalacanthus, Echinopsis hyalacantha, Trichocereus rowleyi, Pseudolobivia pelecyrhachis var. lobivioides, Trichocereus lobivioides, Helianthocereus pecheretianus, Trichocereus huascha var. pecheretianus, Lobivia purpureominiata, Echinopsis rowleyi, Chamaecereus grandiflorus, Echinopsis lobivioides, Trichocereus andalgalensis, Helianthocereus grandiflorus, Pseudolobivia lobivioides, Lobivia huascha, Trichocereus huascha, Cereus huascha, Cereus andalgalensis, Helianthocereus andalgalensis, Lobivia andalgalensis, Helianthocereus huascha var. auricolor, Trichocereus auricolor, Trichocereus andalgalensis var. auricolor, Trichocereus catamarcensis, Lobivia grandiflora, Helianthocereus huascha
http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Cactaceae/Echinopsis_huascha.html

These synonyms include both past names for what is the same plant as well as encompassing what were once considered separate species in their own right (e.g. T.grandiflora). these confuse growers, almost as badly as this post by myself which probably does even more so. i look forward to reading the imminent post by my friend prier who knows much more about Trichocereus who will be able to provide much necessary clarification.
In retrospect you can call a plant whatever you want, thats a nice Pseudolobivia lobivioides you got there Michael. Smile
Back to top Go down
prier



Number of posts: 106
Location: melbourne
Registration date: 2008-04-04

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:51 pm

yeah thanks lewis.
Once in Echinopsis, nearly all the red flowered
trichos become E. huascha. At work we were calling this plant T.huasca
as opposed to T.grandiflora.

I went through all the classic
texts and even the new cactus lexicon. There's doesn't seem to be any
reference to this plant anywhere. My guess is that it's now a sub
species of E.huascha.
Once I get my camera back, I'll post some photos of my plants for comparison.

Someone needs to write a good book about trichos, including all the extra spiny ones trout ignores.
Back to top Go down
lewis
avid contributor & moderator


Number of posts: 863
Location: Melbourne
Registration date: 2008-05-07

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:00 pm

prier wrote:
Someone needs to write a good book about trichos, including all the extra spiny ones trout ignores.

I think you just volunteered. Wink I look forward to reading it. Smile
Back to top Go down
trigonus
Admin & Cactus Fiend


Number of posts: 881
Location: coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C
Registration date: 2008-01-23

PostSubject: Re: Forgotten Tricho   Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:56 pm

lewis wrote:
prier wrote:
Someone needs to write a good book about trichos, including all the extra spiny ones trout ignores.

I think you just volunteered. Wink I look forward to reading it. Smile


Likewise Wink I thoroughly enjoyed Trout's notes on San Pedro, though it would be interesting to read about some of the other trichos out there too.

Actually that reminds me of something myself and prier were working on together a while back...

_________________
コレクタ
Back to top Go down
http://forum.auscactiforum.net
 

Forgotten Tricho

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

 Similar topics

-
» Forgotten Tricho
» TRICHO GRANDIFLOPPA
» The Forgotten Warrior and SkyClan Manga trilogy Covers, Release Dates, and Blurbs!
» Lupin Gone yet Never Forgotten R.I.P. 15-7-09
» Bremen, the forgotten base?

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Australian Cacti Forum :: - :: General Cultivation, Identification & Information :: Cactus & Succulent Identification-