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parrotsheaven

Joined : 14 May 2008 Posts : 398 Location : Red Cliffs, Victoria
| Subject: Digi Seeds Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:21 pm | |
| I have some astrophytum caput-madusae seeds coming from USA and I have ordered more than I need as I thought of you guys in ACF
I was going to do this post after I had done a germination test but I have already had PM's expressing interest so decided to do it now.
Those that are interested in getting some from me can PM me and I will make a list. I ordered an extra 50 seeds so depending on how many show interest to how many you get. I will make it a minimum of 5 per person and on a first come first serve basis.
I should have the seeds in two weeks roughly as they were posted today. If you don't want to wait for me to do a germination test let me know. The seeds are fresh and I totally trust the source.
Edit: if I get 5 replies it will be 10 seeds each 10 replies 5 seeds each etc. _________________ Betty
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calycium Moderator

Joined : 06 Apr 2008 Posts : 354 Location : oz
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:33 pm | |
| Betty,
PM'd you already - but reinforcing my desire for some Digi
cheers |
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hornet
Joined : 26 Apr 2008 Posts : 119 Location : brisbane
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:08 am | |
| | excuse my ignorance but whats digi? |
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parrotsheaven

Joined : 14 May 2008 Posts : 398 Location : Red Cliffs, Victoria
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:56 am | |
| Digi is short for Digitostigma. When it was first discovered it was named as Digitostigma caput-medusae and has since been change to Astrophytum caput-medusae  _________________ Betty
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calycium Moderator

Joined : 06 Apr 2008 Posts : 354 Location : oz
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:35 am | |
| For all the uninformed about this little gem, here is a link.
Astrophytum caput-medusae |
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PD Moderator

  Age : 31 Joined : 02 Apr 2008 Posts : 181 Location : Vic.
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:36 am | |
| | ewww, doesnt tickle my fancy at all. Mite be hard to get and a collectors item and all but it looks terrible IMO |
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trigonus Admin

  Age : 28 Joined : 23 Jan 2008 Posts : 611 Location : coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:44 pm | |
| | Quote: | | ewww, doesnt tickle my fancy at all. Mite be hard to get and a collectors item and all but it looks terrible IMO |
Blasphemy!!!
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calycium Moderator

Joined : 06 Apr 2008 Posts : 354 Location : oz
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:23 pm | |
| I think that they are rather "cute"
Definitely a Astrophytum flower! |
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parrotsheaven

Joined : 14 May 2008 Posts : 398 Location : Red Cliffs, Victoria
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lewis

Joined : 07 May 2008 Posts : 350 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:55 pm | |
| Cool betty. . This is probably the greatest cactus discovery that this generation is ever going to see. It could well be one of the last significant cactus discoveries. there will be more to follow, Mexico is a big place, as is the whole of South America. I hope the wild population is not raided (unless it already has been), like was the case for Aztekium hintonii and just about every other newly discovered, highly sort after cactus. 2001 is incredibly late. It is interesting that although this species was discovered many years the implementation of Mexico's cactus export ban, the fact remains that it is relatively widespread in collections throughout the world, which means it has been smuggled out via unscrupulous means. This is the same for most other new discoveries. In Europe it is no where near as rare as it is here. Apparently a few years ago in Aus Digitostigma seeds were fetching over $100 each. But its not that rare anymore, there has been extensive propagation overseas. i have even seen own roots specimens here. there are rarer plants, anyone got a Yavia cryptocarpa? I am convinced it is an Astrophytum, but calling it Digitostigma does give some credit at least to its discoverers.
and PD, it can't possibly look as bad as a Trichocereus. 
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parrotsheaven

Joined : 14 May 2008 Posts : 398 Location : Red Cliffs, Victoria
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:14 pm | |
| Lewis it is an astrophytum now From what I understand that the site where it was found is known only by the people who discovered it. It has a GPS reading that is being kept secret. You will find that the plants spreading over the world originally come from seeds. It is easily grafted from the tubercles and this is how many new plants are now grown. It was discovered by Manuel Nevárez on August 28th 2001 in Nuevo Leon, Mexico. Here's a better picture of it http://www.thater.net/cactaceae/db/index.php?action=showpicture&rec_id=12508 _________________ Betty
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lewis

Joined : 07 May 2008 Posts : 350 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:27 pm | |
| | parrotsheaven wrote: | Lewis it is an astrophytum now |
Yes... but it is still contaversial and many people remain unconvinced. personally i am convinced it is an Astrophytum.. based on the presense of flecks and its near identical flower and buds. and it can hybridise with astrophtums. the presence of tubercles doesn't help this theory however. some people think it is unique enough to remain in it's own genus of Digitostigma, and still others maintain that it is a natural hybrid of any two cacti they can think of at that moment, including Ariocarpus x astrophytum. I did once see a picture of an Astrophytum asterias x caput-medusae that completely convinced me, but the skeptical could say that many cacti will hybridize. Can't find the link to the pic of the asterias x caput-medusae, but it was like a very thick tubercled Digi with larger flecks and areoles. still had the digi growth habit though. |
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parrotsheaven

Joined : 14 May 2008 Posts : 398 Location : Red Cliffs, Victoria
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:36 pm | |
| | lewis wrote: | | but it is still contaversial and many people remain unconvinced |
Too true, when I got my first seeds it was astrophytum so I have stuck with that. Did not learn till later that it was Digitostigma Many in America are crossing it because if a digi flowers and they don't have another to pollinate with they use what ever is flowering in the astro family. You could say they don't want to waste a flower  _________________ Betty
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lewis

Joined : 07 May 2008 Posts : 350 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:47 pm | |
| i have heard someone who is 100% convinced it is an Neogomesia along with the now 'Ariocarpus' agavoides. well it does have a large taproot and long thin tubercles.
Rightly so they don't want to waste a flower. people have tried crossing it with Obregonia, Ariocarpus, Lophophora and Aztekium without publicised success. i suppose they try crossing it with every cactus in their collection that happens to be flowering at the same time lol. |
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parrotsheaven

Joined : 14 May 2008 Posts : 398 Location : Red Cliffs, Victoria
| Subject: Re: Digi Seeds Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:00 pm | |
| Aw heck I reckon Digi is as good as any name One guy crossed quote "Digi with (Kituko Onzuka-Koh-yo) and (Kituko Onzuka-Koh-yo) with (Digi). The fruits were formed in both plants." He also crossed variegated asterias both ways as well, but got the wrong coloured fruit for digi. These guys that do the crossing are amazing they can tell by fruit and the colour of the seedlings to what they are going to get  _________________ Betty
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